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As far as I can tell from all the noise and confusion, Amazon and Macmillan both suck, but Amazon sucks more than Macmillan does.

In my view, the "fair" approach to ebook pricing at present goes like this (all prices in US$, since that's where the current problem lies). Wholesale prices for the ebook and hardback edition of the same book should be pretty much the same -- printing costs a dollar or two per unit, but ebooks have some additional production overheads that are currently spread over fairly low volumes. The publisher and author will then make the same amount of money whichever version they sell, and shouldn't care about ebook sales "cannibalising" their hardback sales (Macmillan lose points here, since they apparently do care for some reason). Over time, as ebooks become more widespread, their wholesale price should come down to two or three dollars less than the hardback, since their production costs will be spread over more copies and the hardback's will be spread over fewer -- that will probably happen by pushing up the hardback price rather than reducing the wholesale price.

(This is complicated by the fact that we're currently comparing a rental price for the ebook with a purchase price for the hardback, since Macmillan insist on DRM -- let's assume for the time being that they will eventually come to their senses and we can compare apples with apples.)

The retail price for ebooks should be much lower than for hardbacks, since the distribution channel takes about 60% of the (rather nominal) cover price for a hardback, and should be taking 10% at most for an ebook. Amazon would rather keep getting 60% (or 20%-30% once they've discounted below the cover price), and thus quite rightly see ebooks as a threat to their profitability. But they can't win in the long run, so they lose lots of points for trying to defend an untenable position so aggressively.

Macmillan, however, lose some more points for trying to set the retail price for their ebooks rather than the wholesale price (which is illegal in many jurisdictions), and for practically begging their ebook distributors to screw them over by using DRM and restricting who can sell their ebooks.

So what we should see is new release hardbacks and ebooks sold for a wholesale price of somewhere around $10, which then translates to a cover price of $25 for the hardback, with a discounted retail price of around $15-$17, and around $11 retail price for the ebook. Amazon's profit is thus $5-$7 for the hardback, and $1 for the ebook.

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Date: 2010-02-02 03:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stillcarl.livejournal.com
I've not followed the details of this, but you're not taking into account the major difference between paper and ebooks - the buyer can resell the paper books they've bought. Which I'm sure is the main reason Amazon came up with the Kindle.

Amazon started out selling new books, but online second-hand selling was no doubt starting to eat into that. Second-hand books can start appearing for sale online within days of being released as people recoup the cost of a new book they've bought and read but don't want to keep.

That explains why Amazon allows second-hand booksellers to sell though them, but keeps control of the shipping charges themselves. (Though I can't find the details at the moment.) But rest assured it means second-hand sellers can not sell books cheaply though Amazon - even though they can make money selling books at 1c + shipping! (Due to Amazon's high shipping charges, they make their profit on the shipping.)

And ebooks are even better, as an ebook-only title will have no (legal) second-hand market to contend with at all.

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Date: 2010-02-02 07:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicarage.livejournal.com
So is your argument this?

A paper book makes Amazon more money on the initial sale, and then incremental cuts of each subsequent sale. The financial benefits of ebooks could only then be on restricting the number of books in circulation, forcing the casual secondhand buyer to buy new. But the demand from collectors for physical items raises secondhand prices, so Amazon's cut rises again.

Cunning if it works.

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Date: 2010-02-03 10:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stillcarl.livejournal.com
That's one way to look at it, but I suspect Amazon doesn't make much from their cut from the secondhand book sales. My theory is they just wanted to keep the prices of secondhand books up, which they do by controlling the shipping rates. Which I've finally found...

http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html/?nodeId=537734

So, every book sold has the same shipping rates, whether a slim paperback or thick and heavy hardback. And there's no combined shipping rate discount. Buy 4 paperbacks from the same store and the shipping will cost you at least $3.99 times 4.

What's the cheapest you can ship a paperback within the US I wonder? I'm sure it must be much less than $3.99.

Find a good reason for those rates, other than Amazon wanting to keep the price of secondhand books high.

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